The
statement "I believe in... or love God" is an ambiguous assertion.
There are thousands of gods and countless millions of descriptions for a
personal god. The person speaking is saying "I believe in my god"; the
person listening perceives the statement as a validation of
their own god. If there were a great humanitarian named Adolf Hitler;
you wouldn't go around saying "I love and emulate A. Hitler, without
clarifying which one. If you believe in and love a benevolent, ethical
God; it is insulting to equate it to, and revere as if it were your own;
the malicious biblical god.
A: Do you serve your God and believe the Church does also? or
B: Do you serve the Church with faith they represent your God?
Which characteristics; A or B below; best describes your God?
See appendix below for some of the bible quotes that validate the character of the column B god.
Science is an empirical quest to understand existence; ignorance is a temporary condition not a failing. Speculative opinions give way to proven facts. Every claim the bible and church has made about the natural world and professed as god given fact, has been proven wrong by science. The world is not flat; the sun does not orbit the Earth; the Earth is not eight thousand years old; dinosaurs did not walk amongst men. Etc. Etc. Believing in something without conclusive proof is a disastrous dead end. If you have a once in a life time opportunity and you lose a crucial element to take advantage of it; your life stops until you solve this problem---answer the question. When you believe the problem is solved---question answered; you stop searching. Then if at the last moment you realize that your conclusion is false; the opportunity passes you by, and it is to late to do anything about it. When the stakes are high you don't want to stop searching for the truth until you are absolutely sure. What stakes are greater than your happiness, prosperity and probably the only brief life you have to live. The church demands its followers to believe their supernatural claims on faith. Faith is a religious term for trust in a church authority, without evidence to prove their claim. Do you trust a stranger or a person with a deceitful reputation? Most of what the church and bible says aside from historical occurrences and socially established ethical values, is fiction designed to enrich and empower themselves; and if you don't believe it; or question it; or even listen to or associate with skeptics; you will roast in Hell forever. Is Hell a just and compassionate punishment? Does A. Hitler or J. Stalin deserve to suffer the agony of flames for a year; much less till the end of time? How about someone born in a secluded part of the world that never heard of god, Jesus or the bible? Someone brain washed from infancy to fear and believe in the wrong interpretation of the bible? A woman (but not a man) that loses her virginity before she is married? Someone that has sex after divorce or works on the sabbath? Don't you believe a punishment should suit the crime? What does it say about your morality to support an ideology or organization that advocates the eternal suffering of good ethical people that were deceived or uninformed? What about the method god chose to educate the world about his mandates to avoid eternal damnation. "He created the entire Universe and everything in it from nothing in a few days"; and the best he could do to get his message out to mankind is; impregnate a women; wait 30 yrs. to tell him to teach his law to mankind by walking around a small region of the globe preaching word of mouth to a bunch of people that had no reason to believe his claims. There are no historical accounts aside from religious documents that report a man performing miracles; no documents of anyone attempting to discredit any savior of mankind in an attempt to preserve their own way of life. Most of the worlds people are cut off by mountains or oceans or just vast distances. Thousands of years later there are still people on Earth that never heard of god or his book of laws; why doesn't he appear on CNN and prove his existence and tell the world once and for all exactly what he wants from us? He inspires the writing of a book of laws that can only be reproduced by hand often times by illiterates; at a time when most people can't read. He did nothing to preserve the original scripture or any of its early copies. The modern bible is a human compilation of bible scholars best guess of what the original text may have said, based on thousands of conflicting copies hundreds of years removed from the original. There are hundreds of interpretations of this alleged word of god and god is doing nothing to clear up the confusion that will send billions of innocent well intentioned people to a cruel and unjust eternity of suffering. The bible is supposed to be the inerrant, ethical word of god; and it is full of errors, contradictions and immoral mandates. The bible scholars and the Vatican agree the modern bible is unreliable and a product of man not a divinely inspired document. The revelation the modern churches fail to admit is that their organization was founded on this supposed law of god that has been a millennia old lie. Religion is based on the logical fallacy that only the Evil, Immoral and to be damned to Hell; cannot see the ethical and practical values of god and his laws that will lead the righteous to salvation. This is the reason why the Emperor walked through the city streets naked to show off his new wardrobe. Do you still feel faithful? If you still feel compelled to defend the Church and bible; consider this; if god is omniscient and the Universe is his flawless preconceived creation; there is no free will; prayer is the deadly sin of pride; everything that happens in existence from day one till the end is all part of gods will and inerrant plan. The position of every blade of grass; every natural disaster; the evolution of every life form; the comprehension and decision of every mind; every evil act; every suffering and death from disease; every predestined person going to Hell. If believing in a kind, loving Universal creator makes you comfortable; that is your right. No organization has a right to terrorize and enslave a single person much less billions of them; and any one that supports such an organization is guilty by association.
Appendix:
A tithe of everything from the land, whether grain from the soil or fruit from the trees, belongs to the LORD Leviticus 27:30-32 (Why does an omnipotent being need earthly goods?)
Now listen, you rich people, weep and wail because of the misery that is coming on you. James 5:1 ( Why would honest prosperity; be offensive to god?)
by law a married woman is bound to her husband as long as he is alive, ....3 So then, if she has sexual relations with another man while her (Ex) husband is still alive, she is called an adulteress. (Irrational unfair and sexist) Romans 7:1-3 Everyone who divorces his wife and marries another commits adultery, and he who
marries a woman divorced from her husband commits adultery. Luke 16:18
anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart. If your right eye causes you to sin, gouge it out and throw it away. It is better for you to lose one part of your body than for your whole body to be thrown into hell. And if your right hand causes you to sin, cut it off and throw it away. It is better for you to lose one part of your body than for your whole body to go into hell." Matthew 5:27-32
on the seventh day you shall have a Sabbath of solemn rest, holy to the Lord. Whoever does any work on it shall be put to death. Exodus 35:2 But I say to you, Do not resist the one who is evil. But if anyone slaps you on
the right cheek, turn to him the other also. And if anyone wants to sue you and take your shirt, hand over your coat as well. Matthew 5:38-40 Give to everyone who asks you, and if anyone takes what belongs to you, do not
demand it back. Luke 6:30
Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are
commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law. And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their
husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church" 1 Corinthians 14: 34-35
If, however, the charge is true and no proof of the young woman’s virginity can be found, she shall be brought to the door of her father’s house and there the men of her town shall stone her to death. She has done an outrageous thing in Israel by being promiscuous while still in her father’s house. You must purge the evil from among you. Deuteronomy 22:20-21
“Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. Matthew 10:34 Anyone who loves their father or mother more than me is not worthy of me; anyone who loves their son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me. Mathew 10:37
If anyone comes to me and does not hate father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters—yes, even their own life—such a person cannot be my disciple. Luke 14:26 Anyone who loves their life will lose it, while anyone who hates their life in this world will keep it for eternal life. John 12:25
Anyone who hates a brother or sister is a murderer, and you know that no murderer has eternal life residing in him. 1 John 3:15 But I tell you that anyone who is angry with a brother or sister will be subject to judgment. Again, anyone who says to a brother or sister, ‘Raca,’ (contempt) is answerable to the court. And anyone who says, ‘You fool!’ will be in danger of the fire of hell. Matthew 5:22
because of the temptation to sexual immorality, each man should have his own wife and each woman her own husband. 1 Corinthians 7:2 But those who are considered worthy of taking part in the age to come and in the resurrection from the dead will neither marry nor be given in marriage, Luke 20:35 for I, the LORD your God, am a jealous God, punishing the children for the sin of the parents to the third and fourth generation of those who hate me, Exodus 20:5
Do not cut your bodies for the dead or put tattoo marks on yourselves. I am the LORD. Leviticus 19:28 No one born of a forbidden marriage nor any of their descendants may enter the assembly of the LORD, not even in the tenth generation. Deuteronomy 23:2 If a man happens to meet a virgin who is not pledged to be married and rapes her and they are discovered, he shall pay her father fifty shekels of silver. He must marry the young woman, for he has violated her. He can never divorce her as long as he lives. Deuteronomy 22:28-29 Daughter Babylon, doomed to destruction, happy is the one who repays you according to what you have done to us. Happy is the one who seizes your infants and dashes them against the rocks. Psalms 137:8-9 Now go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy all that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys. 1 Samuel 15:3
I tell you the truth, if you have faith as small as a mustard seed, you can say to this mountain, "Move from here to there" and it will move. Matthew 17:20
Early in the morning, as Jesus was on his way back to the city, he was hungry. Seeing a fig tree by the road, he went up to it but found nothing on it except leaves. Then he said to it, “May you never bear fruit again!” Immediately the tree withered. Matthew 21:18-19
If a man happens to meet in a town a virgin pledged to be married and he sleeps with her, you shall take both of them to the gate of that town and stone them to death—the young woman because she was in a town and did not scream for help, and the man because he violated another man’s wife. Deuteronomy 22:23-24
“This is what the LORD says: ‘Out of your own household I am going to bring calamity on you. Before your very eyes I will take your wives and give them to one who is close to you, and he will sleep with your wives in broad daylight. You did it in secret, but I will do this thing in broad daylight before all Israel.’” Then David said to Nathan, “I have sinned against the LORD.” Nathan replied, “The LORD has taken away your sin. You are not going to die. But because by doing this you have shown utter contempt for the LORD, the son born to you will die.” 2 Samuel 12:11-14
But as for these enemies of mine, who did not want me to reign over them, bring them here and slaughter them before me. Luke 19:27
“If anyone causes one of these little ones—those who believe in me—to stumble, it would be better for them if a large millstone were hung around their neck and they were thrown into the sea. 43 If your hand causes you to stumble, cut it off. It is better for you to enter life maimed than with two hands to go into hell, where the fire never goes out. Mark 9:42-43 Blessed are you when people insult you, persecute you and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of me. Matthew 5:11 (people of Samaria) They will fall by the sword; their little ones will be dashed to the ground, their pregnant women ripped open. Hosea 13:16
Do not seek revenge or bear a grudge against anyone among your people, but love your neighbor as yourself. I am the LORD. Leviticus 19:18 ( no need for laws or jails; love the criminals that make your life miserable or burn in Hell) If a priest’s daughter defiles herself by playing the whore, she disgraces her father; she must be burned in the fire. Leviticus 21:9 Make ready to slaughter his sons for the guilt of their fathers; ......... Isaiah 14:21
If anyone curses his father or mother, he must be put to death......Leviticus 20:9 Anyone who curses their God will be held responsible; anyone who blasphemes the name of the LORD is to be put to death. Leviticus 24:15-16
Then he said to them, “This is what the Lord, the God of Israel, says: ‘Each man strap a sword to his side. Go back and forth through the camp from one end to the other, each killing his brother and friend and neighbor.’ ” The Levites did as Moses commanded, and that day about three thousand of the people died. Exodus 32:26-29 Go up, my warriors, against the land of Merathaim and against the people of Pekod. Pursue, kill, and completely destroy* them, as I have commanded you,” says the Lord.“Let the battle cry be heard in the land, a shout
of great destruction. Jeremiah 50:21-22 Then they took what Micah had made, and his priest, and went on to Laish, against a peaceful and unsuspecting people. They attacked them with the sword and burned down their city. Judges 18:27 But the LORD God called to the man, “Where are you?” Genesis 3:9
The LORD said to Satan, "Where have you come from?" Job 1:7 Abraham has to plead with god to spare the city of Sodom. Genesis 18:16-33 Noah's flood; god should have known mankind would betray him again; Noah had to convince god to spare him and his family. the LORD said to Cain, "Where is your brother Abel?" Genesis 4:9
A: Do you serve your God and believe the Church does also? or
B: Do you serve the Church with faith they represent your God?
Which characteristics; A or B below; best describes your God?
1.
A: Does he love all equally or
B: favor one
people over others?
2. A: Does he encourage loving the ethical, pleasant & affectionate or B: mandate loving the immoral equally?
3. A: Does he
promote
peace or B; war & social turmoil?
4. A: Does he support freedom and equality or B: encourage slavery & discrimination?
5. A: Is he compassionate and
empathetic or B: is he cruel, merciless and apathetic?
6. A: Does he promote happiness and prosperity or B: misery and suffering?
7. A: Is he just and fair or B: unjust and unreasonable?
8. A: Is he omniscient or B: can he be surprised?
9. A: Does he consider rape to be immoral or B: a courtship tactic?
10. A: Does he value children as precious or B: toss them aside like a dirty tissue?See appendix below for some of the bible quotes that validate the character of the column B god.
Science is an empirical quest to understand existence; ignorance is a temporary condition not a failing. Speculative opinions give way to proven facts. Every claim the bible and church has made about the natural world and professed as god given fact, has been proven wrong by science. The world is not flat; the sun does not orbit the Earth; the Earth is not eight thousand years old; dinosaurs did not walk amongst men. Etc. Etc. Believing in something without conclusive proof is a disastrous dead end. If you have a once in a life time opportunity and you lose a crucial element to take advantage of it; your life stops until you solve this problem---answer the question. When you believe the problem is solved---question answered; you stop searching. Then if at the last moment you realize that your conclusion is false; the opportunity passes you by, and it is to late to do anything about it. When the stakes are high you don't want to stop searching for the truth until you are absolutely sure. What stakes are greater than your happiness, prosperity and probably the only brief life you have to live. The church demands its followers to believe their supernatural claims on faith. Faith is a religious term for trust in a church authority, without evidence to prove their claim. Do you trust a stranger or a person with a deceitful reputation? Most of what the church and bible says aside from historical occurrences and socially established ethical values, is fiction designed to enrich and empower themselves; and if you don't believe it; or question it; or even listen to or associate with skeptics; you will roast in Hell forever. Is Hell a just and compassionate punishment? Does A. Hitler or J. Stalin deserve to suffer the agony of flames for a year; much less till the end of time? How about someone born in a secluded part of the world that never heard of god, Jesus or the bible? Someone brain washed from infancy to fear and believe in the wrong interpretation of the bible? A woman (but not a man) that loses her virginity before she is married? Someone that has sex after divorce or works on the sabbath? Don't you believe a punishment should suit the crime? What does it say about your morality to support an ideology or organization that advocates the eternal suffering of good ethical people that were deceived or uninformed? What about the method god chose to educate the world about his mandates to avoid eternal damnation. "He created the entire Universe and everything in it from nothing in a few days"; and the best he could do to get his message out to mankind is; impregnate a women; wait 30 yrs. to tell him to teach his law to mankind by walking around a small region of the globe preaching word of mouth to a bunch of people that had no reason to believe his claims. There are no historical accounts aside from religious documents that report a man performing miracles; no documents of anyone attempting to discredit any savior of mankind in an attempt to preserve their own way of life. Most of the worlds people are cut off by mountains or oceans or just vast distances. Thousands of years later there are still people on Earth that never heard of god or his book of laws; why doesn't he appear on CNN and prove his existence and tell the world once and for all exactly what he wants from us? He inspires the writing of a book of laws that can only be reproduced by hand often times by illiterates; at a time when most people can't read. He did nothing to preserve the original scripture or any of its early copies. The modern bible is a human compilation of bible scholars best guess of what the original text may have said, based on thousands of conflicting copies hundreds of years removed from the original. There are hundreds of interpretations of this alleged word of god and god is doing nothing to clear up the confusion that will send billions of innocent well intentioned people to a cruel and unjust eternity of suffering. The bible is supposed to be the inerrant, ethical word of god; and it is full of errors, contradictions and immoral mandates. The bible scholars and the Vatican agree the modern bible is unreliable and a product of man not a divinely inspired document. The revelation the modern churches fail to admit is that their organization was founded on this supposed law of god that has been a millennia old lie. Religion is based on the logical fallacy that only the Evil, Immoral and to be damned to Hell; cannot see the ethical and practical values of god and his laws that will lead the righteous to salvation. This is the reason why the Emperor walked through the city streets naked to show off his new wardrobe. Do you still feel faithful? If you still feel compelled to defend the Church and bible; consider this; if god is omniscient and the Universe is his flawless preconceived creation; there is no free will; prayer is the deadly sin of pride; everything that happens in existence from day one till the end is all part of gods will and inerrant plan. The position of every blade of grass; every natural disaster; the evolution of every life form; the comprehension and decision of every mind; every evil act; every suffering and death from disease; every predestined person going to Hell. If believing in a kind, loving Universal creator makes you comfortable; that is your right. No organization has a right to terrorize and enslave a single person much less billions of them; and any one that supports such an organization is guilty by association.
Appendix:
He (Jesus) told them, “The secret of the kingdom of God has been given to you. But to those on the outside everything is said in parables so that, “‘they may be ever seeing but never perceiving, and ever hearing but never understanding; otherwise they might turn and be forgiven! Mark 4:11-12
for you are a people holy to the LORD your God. Out of all the peoples on the face of the earth, the LORD has chosen you to be his treasured possession. Deuteronomy 14:2
Masters, treat your slaves justly and fairly, knowing that you also have a Master in heaven. Colossians 4:1
All who are under the
yoke of slavery
should consider their masters
worthy of full respect, so that God’s name and our teaching may not be
slandered. Those who
have believing masters should not show them disrespect just because they
are fellow believers. Instead, they should serve them even better
Timothy 6: 1-2 Jesus said ... Your male and female slaves are to come
from the nations around you; from them you may buy slaves. .... You can
bequeath them to your children as inherited property and can make them
slaves for life, Leviticus 25: 44-46for you are a people holy to the LORD your God. Out of all the peoples on the face of the earth, the LORD has chosen you to be his treasured possession. Deuteronomy 14:2
Masters, treat your slaves justly and fairly, knowing that you also have a Master in heaven. Colossians 4:1
A tithe of everything from the land, whether grain from the soil or fruit from the trees, belongs to the LORD Leviticus 27:30-32 (Why does an omnipotent being need earthly goods?)
Now listen, you rich people, weep and wail because of the misery that is coming on you. James 5:1 ( Why would honest prosperity; be offensive to god?)
by law a married woman is bound to her husband as long as he is alive, ....3 So then, if she has sexual relations with another man while her (Ex) husband is still alive, she is called an adulteress. (Irrational unfair and sexist) Romans 7:1-3 Everyone who divorces his wife and marries another commits adultery, and he who
marries a woman divorced from her husband commits adultery. Luke 16:18
anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart. If your right eye causes you to sin, gouge it out and throw it away. It is better for you to lose one part of your body than for your whole body to be thrown into hell. And if your right hand causes you to sin, cut it off and throw it away. It is better for you to lose one part of your body than for your whole body to go into hell." Matthew 5:27-32
on the seventh day you shall have a Sabbath of solemn rest, holy to the Lord. Whoever does any work on it shall be put to death. Exodus 35:2 But I say to you, Do not resist the one who is evil. But if anyone slaps you on
the right cheek, turn to him the other also. And if anyone wants to sue you and take your shirt, hand over your coat as well. Matthew 5:38-40 Give to everyone who asks you, and if anyone takes what belongs to you, do not
demand it back. Luke 6:30
Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are
commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law. And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their
husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church" 1 Corinthians 14: 34-35
If, however, the charge is true and no proof of the young woman’s virginity can be found, she shall be brought to the door of her father’s house and there the men of her town shall stone her to death. She has done an outrageous thing in Israel by being promiscuous while still in her father’s house. You must purge the evil from among you. Deuteronomy 22:20-21
“Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. Matthew 10:34 Anyone who loves their father or mother more than me is not worthy of me; anyone who loves their son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me. Mathew 10:37
If anyone comes to me and does not hate father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters—yes, even their own life—such a person cannot be my disciple. Luke 14:26 Anyone who loves their life will lose it, while anyone who hates their life in this world will keep it for eternal life. John 12:25
Anyone who hates a brother or sister is a murderer, and you know that no murderer has eternal life residing in him. 1 John 3:15 But I tell you that anyone who is angry with a brother or sister will be subject to judgment. Again, anyone who says to a brother or sister, ‘Raca,’ (contempt) is answerable to the court. And anyone who says, ‘You fool!’ will be in danger of the fire of hell. Matthew 5:22
because of the temptation to sexual immorality, each man should have his own wife and each woman her own husband. 1 Corinthians 7:2 But those who are considered worthy of taking part in the age to come and in the resurrection from the dead will neither marry nor be given in marriage, Luke 20:35 for I, the LORD your God, am a jealous God, punishing the children for the sin of the parents to the third and fourth generation of those who hate me, Exodus 20:5
Do not cut your bodies for the dead or put tattoo marks on yourselves. I am the LORD. Leviticus 19:28 No one born of a forbidden marriage nor any of their descendants may enter the assembly of the LORD, not even in the tenth generation. Deuteronomy 23:2 If a man happens to meet a virgin who is not pledged to be married and rapes her and they are discovered, he shall pay her father fifty shekels of silver. He must marry the young woman, for he has violated her. He can never divorce her as long as he lives. Deuteronomy 22:28-29 Daughter Babylon, doomed to destruction, happy is the one who repays you according to what you have done to us. Happy is the one who seizes your infants and dashes them against the rocks. Psalms 137:8-9 Now go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy all that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys. 1 Samuel 15:3
I tell you the truth, if you have faith as small as a mustard seed, you can say to this mountain, "Move from here to there" and it will move. Matthew 17:20
Early in the morning, as Jesus was on his way back to the city, he was hungry. Seeing a fig tree by the road, he went up to it but found nothing on it except leaves. Then he said to it, “May you never bear fruit again!” Immediately the tree withered. Matthew 21:18-19
If a man happens to meet in a town a virgin pledged to be married and he sleeps with her, you shall take both of them to the gate of that town and stone them to death—the young woman because she was in a town and did not scream for help, and the man because he violated another man’s wife. Deuteronomy 22:23-24
“This is what the LORD says: ‘Out of your own household I am going to bring calamity on you. Before your very eyes I will take your wives and give them to one who is close to you, and he will sleep with your wives in broad daylight. You did it in secret, but I will do this thing in broad daylight before all Israel.’” Then David said to Nathan, “I have sinned against the LORD.” Nathan replied, “The LORD has taken away your sin. You are not going to die. But because by doing this you have shown utter contempt for the LORD, the son born to you will die.” 2 Samuel 12:11-14
But as for these enemies of mine, who did not want me to reign over them, bring them here and slaughter them before me. Luke 19:27
“If anyone causes one of these little ones—those who believe in me—to stumble, it would be better for them if a large millstone were hung around their neck and they were thrown into the sea. 43 If your hand causes you to stumble, cut it off. It is better for you to enter life maimed than with two hands to go into hell, where the fire never goes out. Mark 9:42-43 Blessed are you when people insult you, persecute you and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of me. Matthew 5:11 (people of Samaria) They will fall by the sword; their little ones will be dashed to the ground, their pregnant women ripped open. Hosea 13:16
Do not seek revenge or bear a grudge against anyone among your people, but love your neighbor as yourself. I am the LORD. Leviticus 19:18 ( no need for laws or jails; love the criminals that make your life miserable or burn in Hell) If a priest’s daughter defiles herself by playing the whore, she disgraces her father; she must be burned in the fire. Leviticus 21:9 Make ready to slaughter his sons for the guilt of their fathers; ......... Isaiah 14:21
If anyone curses his father or mother, he must be put to death......Leviticus 20:9 Anyone who curses their God will be held responsible; anyone who blasphemes the name of the LORD is to be put to death. Leviticus 24:15-16
Then he said to them, “This is what the Lord, the God of Israel, says: ‘Each man strap a sword to his side. Go back and forth through the camp from one end to the other, each killing his brother and friend and neighbor.’ ” The Levites did as Moses commanded, and that day about three thousand of the people died. Exodus 32:26-29 Go up, my warriors, against the land of Merathaim and against the people of Pekod. Pursue, kill, and completely destroy* them, as I have commanded you,” says the Lord.“Let the battle cry be heard in the land, a shout
of great destruction. Jeremiah 50:21-22 Then they took what Micah had made, and his priest, and went on to Laish, against a peaceful and unsuspecting people. They attacked them with the sword and burned down their city. Judges 18:27 But the LORD God called to the man, “Where are you?” Genesis 3:9
The LORD said to Satan, "Where have you come from?" Job 1:7 Abraham has to plead with god to spare the city of Sodom. Genesis 18:16-33 Noah's flood; god should have known mankind would betray him again; Noah had to convince god to spare him and his family. the LORD said to Cain, "Where is your brother Abel?" Genesis 4:9